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		<title>By: Catherine Helzerman</title>
		<link>http://omis.me/2009/05/24/starbucks-detroit-problem/#comment-2180</link>
		<dc:creator>Catherine Helzerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 16:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem of not being able to fine tune closing times by location is real -I&#039;ve had managers of other large chain stores tell me the same story -their store gets forced to close during peak business hours because &quot;management&quot; decides that across the board the corp will save money.

With the capabilities of today&#039;s enterprise software, there is really no excuse for this.  Depending on how their systems are set up, one should be able to see the level of business at each Starbucks, how much product is going out the door at what time, and, which product specifically.  Of course, these systems are meant to provide information and not make management decisions, otherwise you end up with debacles such as when Starbucks did their recent cutbacks based on store sales (not realizing -or perhaps just not coming up with an answer for- the fact that when a barista serves 25 cost conscious customers 25 &quot;tall&quot; size drinks, she is doing the same work as when she served 25 flush customers vente  drinks.)  In that case, the work level stayed the same, staff was cut and subsequently service went down leading to frustrated employees and customers.

And, since you mentioned music, how about the fact that, at least in the South Bay, Starbucks played depressing music from the 1940s (not even the peppy stuff -just  songs about breakups and not knowing how one will go on) for a good three months?  I remember one customer musing that the chain was playing the loud repetitive music as a way to keep jobless people from &quot;sitting in the store for eight hours nursing their tall house blend while they surf the job sites&quot;.  At the time, I laughed it off as a joke...but later, after about three or four more weeks of down-music, I wondered.

So, I guess the real question here is, who&#039;s minding the store?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem of not being able to fine tune closing times by location is real -I&#8217;ve had managers of other large chain stores tell me the same story -their store gets forced to close during peak business hours because &#8220;management&#8221; decides that across the board the corp will save money.</p>
<p>With the capabilities of today&#8217;s enterprise software, there is really no excuse for this.  Depending on how their systems are set up, one should be able to see the level of business at each Starbucks, how much product is going out the door at what time, and, which product specifically.  Of course, these systems are meant to provide information and not make management decisions, otherwise you end up with debacles such as when Starbucks did their recent cutbacks based on store sales (not realizing -or perhaps just not coming up with an answer for- the fact that when a barista serves 25 cost conscious customers 25 &#8220;tall&#8221; size drinks, she is doing the same work as when she served 25 flush customers vente  drinks.)  In that case, the work level stayed the same, staff was cut and subsequently service went down leading to frustrated employees and customers.</p>
<p>And, since you mentioned music, how about the fact that, at least in the South Bay, Starbucks played depressing music from the 1940s (not even the peppy stuff -just  songs about breakups and not knowing how one will go on) for a good three months?  I remember one customer musing that the chain was playing the loud repetitive music as a way to keep jobless people from &#8220;sitting in the store for eight hours nursing their tall house blend while they surf the job sites&#8221;.  At the time, I laughed it off as a joke&#8230;but later, after about three or four more weeks of down-music, I wondered.</p>
<p>So, I guess the real question here is, who&#8217;s minding the store?</p>
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		<title>By: Rick N</title>
		<link>http://omis.me/2009/05/24/starbucks-detroit-problem/#comment-2193</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sitting at a Starbucks on Norwood Ave in Sacramento, CA.  I just four people leave without buying any coffee, pastries because the music is too loud. The were dressed in suits and had two laptops. Probably would have spent about $5-7 per person since it is almost lunch time.

I&#039;m sitting here contemplating leaving too.  The damn speakers are right above my head and the music is too freaking loud.  The speakers should be where the baristas work.  The people could still hear the music from this location.

What in the hell is wrong with Starbucks managers?  Don&#039;t they understand if people can&#039;t speak to each other without screaming, there is a problem.

I find myself going to Panera Bread for coffee, lunch and Wi-Fi.  What a company that does not give a damn about customers&#039; experiences.

Rick
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sitting at a Starbucks on Norwood Ave in Sacramento, CA.  I just four people leave without buying any coffee, pastries because the music is too loud. The were dressed in suits and had two laptops. Probably would have spent about $5-7 per person since it is almost lunch time.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sitting here contemplating leaving too.  The damn speakers are right above my head and the music is too freaking loud.  The speakers should be where the baristas work.  The people could still hear the music from this location.</p>
<p>What in the hell is wrong with Starbucks managers?  Don&#8217;t they understand if people can&#8217;t speak to each other without screaming, there is a problem.</p>
<p>I find myself going to Panera Bread for coffee, lunch and Wi-Fi.  What a company that does not give a damn about customers&#8217; experiences.</p>
<p>Rick<br />
916-837-7722</p>
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		<title>By: Three Years &#38; Counting&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://omis.me/2009/05/24/starbucks-detroit-problem/#comment-2189</link>
		<dc:creator>Three Years &#38; Counting&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 12:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] seems like only yesterday that I was sitting at the Starbucks near my old office with my friends Nitin Borwankar and Dave McClure, along with ace web designer Mike Rundle (via [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] seems like only yesterday that I was sitting at the Starbucks near my old office with my friends Nitin Borwankar and Dave McClure, along with ace web designer Mike Rundle (via [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Om Malik</title>
		<link>http://omis.me/2009/05/24/starbucks-detroit-problem/#comment-2192</link>
		<dc:creator>Om Malik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 12:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>point well taken. my bad on the spelling.</description>
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		<title>By: Srini</title>
		<link>http://omis.me/2009/05/24/starbucks-detroit-problem/#comment-2184</link>
		<dc:creator>Srini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 05:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Om

I&#039;m a regular at GigaOm and like reading your blogs.  You write &quot;teaming with people...&quot; like most good writers do but only the very best can discern &quot;teeming with people...&quot;.  I wanted to point that out because as a writer you should be held to a higher standard than an average writer.

Srini</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Om</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a regular at GigaOm and like reading your blogs.  You write &#8220;teaming with people&#8230;&#8221; like most good writers do but only the very best can discern &#8220;teeming with people&#8230;&#8221;.  I wanted to point that out because as a writer you should be held to a higher standard than an average writer.</p>
<p>Srini</p>
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		<title>By: PB</title>
		<link>http://omis.me/2009/05/24/starbucks-detroit-problem/#comment-2188</link>
		<dc:creator>PB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 06:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Needless they are still being studied in major universities as examples of good business management and human resources at it&#039;s best! Recently the one on our campus was closing at 5:30 and was selling only one type of coffee. There was a storm her a few days earlier but curfew had been lifted for 5 days, and the campus was open. Do you think they may have branched globally too soon? Or maybe too much is what happened, as for load music ours doesn&#039;t even have it playing. But too loud would be worse. I like Starbucks and there business management style.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Needless they are still being studied in major universities as examples of good business management and human resources at it&#8217;s best! Recently the one on our campus was closing at 5:30 and was selling only one type of coffee. There was a storm her a few days earlier but curfew had been lifted for 5 days, and the campus was open. Do you think they may have branched globally too soon? Or maybe too much is what happened, as for load music ours doesn&#8217;t even have it playing. But too loud would be worse. I like Starbucks and there business management style.</p>
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		<title>By: Eideard</title>
		<link>http://omis.me/2009/05/24/starbucks-detroit-problem/#comment-2187</link>
		<dc:creator>Eideard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 12:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone&#039;s taste is different - for coffee, that is.  I find Starbucks about right for me - though I don&#039;t prefer either variation on Chai, locally.  Living in New Mexico where bland &quot;cowboy coffee&quot; is the historic standard, most True Locals find Starbucks too strong.

They must be treating their staff well.  The Starbucks I visit has the same folks working there over years.  Always a good sign.

But, my wife and I both are fans of a local coffee shop called Java Joe&#039;s.  One of the first in town with strong free wi-fi.  Been through 2 owners and only became bigger and better.

Smart enough to be neighborhood-based.  Useful and friendly enough to attract hermits like us when we come to town for work or recreation.  Talented baristas - able to tweak whichever beverage of choice we request.

Jave Joe&#039;s - and Starbucks - both seem to have bright enough ownership to identify with people and planet-oriented politics.  Which also counts [I believe] with the folks who gravitate to coffee shops as a natural social anchor.

It worked for James Joyce.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone&#8217;s taste is different &#8211; for coffee, that is.  I find Starbucks about right for me &#8211; though I don&#8217;t prefer either variation on Chai, locally.  Living in New Mexico where bland &#8220;cowboy coffee&#8221; is the historic standard, most True Locals find Starbucks too strong.</p>
<p>They must be treating their staff well.  The Starbucks I visit has the same folks working there over years.  Always a good sign.</p>
<p>But, my wife and I both are fans of a local coffee shop called Java Joe&#8217;s.  One of the first in town with strong free wi-fi.  Been through 2 owners and only became bigger and better.</p>
<p>Smart enough to be neighborhood-based.  Useful and friendly enough to attract hermits like us when we come to town for work or recreation.  Talented baristas &#8211; able to tweak whichever beverage of choice we request.</p>
<p>Jave Joe&#8217;s &#8211; and Starbucks &#8211; both seem to have bright enough ownership to identify with people and planet-oriented politics.  Which also counts [I believe] with the folks who gravitate to coffee shops as a natural social anchor.</p>
<p>It worked for James Joyce.</p>
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		<title>By: tallbridge</title>
		<link>http://omis.me/2009/05/24/starbucks-detroit-problem/#comment-2186</link>
		<dc:creator>tallbridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 08:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>they were slammed for wasting an est. 23 million gallons of water a day...plus a friend who owns his own coffee shop and went to school for it told me that most starbucks (cept the ones in the nw us) don&#039;t even clean the container in which the beans sit before they are grinded...if you look there&#039;s a ton of oil that builds up...he says this oil can make you very sick and he cleans his at least twice a day, and never lets it sit overnight...at starbucks it can sit for long streches</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they were slammed for wasting an est. 23 million gallons of water a day&#8230;plus a friend who owns his own coffee shop and went to school for it told me that most starbucks (cept the ones in the nw us) don&#8217;t even clean the container in which the beans sit before they are grinded&#8230;if you look there&#8217;s a ton of oil that builds up&#8230;he says this oil can make you very sick and he cleans his at least twice a day, and never lets it sit overnight&#8230;at starbucks it can sit for long streches</p>
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		<title>By: PhoneBoy</title>
		<link>http://omis.me/2009/05/24/starbucks-detroit-problem/#comment-2185</link>
		<dc:creator>PhoneBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 08:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My favorite drinks at Starbucks are tea, not coffee. Go figure.

The greater Seattle area has a ton of coffee shops. Drive-up shacks are also common in the more rural areas, kinda like the photo huts of old. Will have to try some of the non-Starbucks locations as places to go &quot;work&quot; when I feel the need to get out of the house.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favorite drinks at Starbucks are tea, not coffee. Go figure.</p>
<p>The greater Seattle area has a ton of coffee shops. Drive-up shacks are also common in the more rural areas, kinda like the photo huts of old. Will have to try some of the non-Starbucks locations as places to go &#8220;work&#8221; when I feel the need to get out of the house.</p>
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		<title>By: chrysanti</title>
		<link>http://omis.me/2009/05/24/starbucks-detroit-problem/#comment-2190</link>
		<dc:creator>chrysanti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 06:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hello.. they green tea latte is still the best! :P

btw in Malaysia, they still open til 10pm..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hello.. they green tea latte is still the best! <img src='http://omis.me/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>btw in Malaysia, they still open til 10pm..</p>
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